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	<description>It's like family, only weirder...</description>
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		<title>By: Danny Bloom</title>
		<link>http://www.gradin.com/2007/07/23/polar-cities/#comment-47171</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Bloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WANT TO SEE WHAT ''POLAR CITIES'' MIGHT LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE?

http://pcillu101.blogspot.com

At this blogsite, you can see some early artwork depicting what polar
cities might look like, interior views. Art was created by Taiwanese
artist Deng Cheng-hong, with production notes from Dan Bloom, creator
of the ''polar city blog''....

http://pcillu101.blogspot.com

Cheers,

Dan Bloom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WANT TO SEE WHAT &#8221;POLAR CITIES&#8221; MIGHT LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE?</p>
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<p>At this blogsite, you can see some early artwork depicting what polar<br />
cities might look like, interior views. Art was created by Taiwanese<br />
artist Deng Cheng-hong, with production notes from Dan Bloom, creator<br />
of the &#8221;polar city blog&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="http://pcillu101.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://pcillu101.blogspot.com</a></p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Dan Bloom</p>
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		<title>By: danny bee</title>
		<link>http://www.gradin.com/2007/07/23/polar-cities/#comment-41019</link>
		<dc:creator>danny bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>olaf,
i have a blueprint artist drawing of a model polar city, may i send it to you via email attachment and then you put up on the blog to illustrate what polar cities might look like?

danny

Subject: 圖
To: danbloom@gmail.com


blueprint for polar city, drawing, circa 2800 AD

danny




  0906-4.tif
2745K Download</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>olaf,<br />
i have a blueprint artist drawing of a model polar city, may i send it to you via email attachment and then you put up on the blog to illustrate what polar cities might look like?</p>
<p>danny</p>
<p>Subject: 圖<br />
To: <a href="mailto:danbloom@gmail.com">danbloom@gmail.com</a></p>
<p>blueprint for polar city, drawing, circa 2800 AD</p>
<p>danny</p>
<p>  0906-4.tif<br />
2745K Download</p>
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		<title>By: danny bee</title>
		<link>http://www.gradin.com/2007/07/23/polar-cities/#comment-38341</link>
		<dc:creator>danny bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 03:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Spazzmanda, I am an obsessive person. Once i get an idea into my head, and it sounds worthwhile to puruse, (and most of my ideas i reject the next day),........I become obsessed by the idea, and work at it until it has gone as far as it can...........but it's healthy kind of obession, does not overtake me, jsut resonates in my mind and in terms of global warming, i thinkl this idea, as a kind of Johnathan Swiftian "modest proposa" could help to wake people up to the reality of climate change.....some people still think NOTHING is going to happen.......I am quite sure HUMANKInd will not be on the Planet in any form by year 3,500..........mark my words! (smile) sigh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Spazzmanda, I am an obsessive person. Once i get an idea into my head, and it sounds worthwhile to puruse, (and most of my ideas i reject the next day),&#8230;&#8230;..I become obsessed by the idea, and work at it until it has gone as far as it can&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..but it&#8217;s healthy kind of obession, does not overtake me, jsut resonates in my mind and in terms of global warming, i thinkl this idea, as a kind of Johnathan Swiftian &#8220;modest proposa&#8221; could help to wake people up to the reality of climate change&#8230;..some people still think NOTHING is going to happen&#8230;&#8230;.I am quite sure HUMANKInd will not be on the Planet in any form by year 3,500&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.mark my words! (smile) sigh</p>
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		<title>By: Spazzmanda</title>
		<link>http://www.gradin.com/2007/07/23/polar-cities/#comment-38301</link>
		<dc:creator>Spazzmanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Danny Bee, you have given this a LOT of thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Danny Bee, you have given this a LOT of thought.</p>
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		<title>By: danny bee</title>
		<link>http://www.gradin.com/2007/07/23/polar-cities/#comment-38244</link>
		<dc:creator>danny bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 07:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A well0known author of books about global warming wrote to me today:

re polar cities idea

"Dear Danny,
I know James Lovelock has alluded to humans, in the future, only being able to inhabit polar zones.  But your version sounds hopelessly dependent on high tech and high energy.  Fuggeddabowdit."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A well0known author of books about global warming wrote to me today:</p>
<p>re polar cities idea</p>
<p>&#8220;Dear Danny,<br />
I know James Lovelock has alluded to humans, in the future, only being able to inhabit polar zones.  But your version sounds hopelessly dependent on high tech and high energy.  Fuggeddabowdit.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: danny bee</title>
		<link>http://www.gradin.com/2007/07/23/polar-cities/#comment-38111</link>
		<dc:creator>danny bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 03:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>by the way, Olaf and Sean and Spassmanda, do you realize we are the only ones in the known universe, other than good blogger Kit Stoltz A CHANGE IN THE WIND, to be discussing POLAR CITIES at all.....? ABsolute nobody has registered this concept in their minds yet, so we are pioneering this discusssion just by talking about the, sci fi or real, ..... just a thought</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by the way, Olaf and Sean and Spassmanda, do you realize we are the only ones in the known universe, other than good blogger Kit Stoltz A CHANGE IN THE WIND, to be discussing POLAR CITIES at all&#8230;..? ABsolute nobody has registered this concept in their minds yet, so we are pioneering this discusssion just by talking about the, sci fi or real, &#8230;.. just a thought</p>
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		<title>By: danny bee</title>
		<link>http://www.gradin.com/2007/07/23/polar-cities/#comment-37989</link>
		<dc:creator>danny bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 05:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>by the way,speaking of polar cities, put this missive from a friend in your pipe and smoke it:

"This is confidential comment. Aside from overtly urging, in cinematic or otherwise public venues, the near-future construction of ''sustainable polar cities'', I believe we should also investigate whether such cities, or at least their core settlements and surrounding farms, have *already been started covertly* by private networks of the wealthy, powerful and scientifically aware. 

Keep in mind that the need for such cities was apparent to some as early as 1962, when Mikhail Budyko showed how greenhouse gas emissions would have drastic effects on global climate before 2100, and has become only more evident ever since. 

One can use geographical criteria to identify the regions best suited for post-Holocene cities and farms, then scrutinize the public record on one such region after another, scouring the news and interviewing the locals for hints of global warming refuge development. 

One's inquiries should be discreet, however, because these covert developers, if any, might regard premature publicity as a threat to the success of projects on which the survival of their children and grandchildren could conceivably depend, and threatening or seeming to threaten the offspring of wealthy and powerful people will not profit researchers. 
 
One intriguing possible example of the kind of hint we should seek out is the story of Krishnan Suthanthiran’s 2005 purchase of Kitsault, British Columbia, Canada, a modern mining town abandoned after the local Amax molybdenum mine closed in late 1982. Check out these URLs:
 
www.kitsault.com 
www.kitsault.com/news/02_08_05.htm

ENDQUOTE

spooky? possible? futuristic? scary if true!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by the way,speaking of polar cities, put this missive from a friend in your pipe and smoke it:</p>
<p>&#8220;This is confidential comment. Aside from overtly urging, in cinematic or otherwise public venues, the near-future construction of &#8216;&#8217;sustainable polar cities&#8221;, I believe we should also investigate whether such cities, or at least their core settlements and surrounding farms, have *already been started covertly* by private networks of the wealthy, powerful and scientifically aware. </p>
<p>Keep in mind that the need for such cities was apparent to some as early as 1962, when Mikhail Budyko showed how greenhouse gas emissions would have drastic effects on global climate before 2100, and has become only more evident ever since. </p>
<p>One can use geographical criteria to identify the regions best suited for post-Holocene cities and farms, then scrutinize the public record on one such region after another, scouring the news and interviewing the locals for hints of global warming refuge development. </p>
<p>One&#8217;s inquiries should be discreet, however, because these covert developers, if any, might regard premature publicity as a threat to the success of projects on which the survival of their children and grandchildren could conceivably depend, and threatening or seeming to threaten the offspring of wealthy and powerful people will not profit researchers. </p>
<p>One intriguing possible example of the kind of hint we should seek out is the story of Krishnan Suthanthiran’s 2005 purchase of Kitsault, British Columbia, Canada, a modern mining town abandoned after the local Amax molybdenum mine closed in late 1982. Check out these URLs:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kitsault.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.kitsault.com</a><br />
<a href="http://www.kitsault.com/news/02_08_05.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.kitsault.com/news/02_08_05.htm</a></p>
<p>ENDQUOTE</p>
<p>spooky? possible? futuristic? scary if true!</p>
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		<title>By: danny bee</title>
		<link>http://www.gradin.com/2007/07/23/polar-cities/#comment-37987</link>
		<dc:creator>danny bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 04:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Olaf, who is James Palmer? Writer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Olaf, who is James Palmer? Writer?</p>
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		<title>By: danny bee</title>
		<link>http://www.gradin.com/2007/07/23/polar-cities/#comment-37986</link>
		<dc:creator>danny bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 04:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>spazzmanda said:

"But I must posit one question, will the high rise living quarters in the Polar Cities also be equipped to fend off the zombies? Because that is what I think about in the distant future, and we all should really be prepared."

You know, I just saw the movie 28  DAYS LATER by Danny Boyle and Alex Garland, and yes, this nightmare scenario could happen, in far distant future of say, year 3500 or so, in polar cities, IF we get that far to even build them. We should be talking about them more NOW, and planning and designing and even pre-building them NOW, while we still have optimism and time and fuel and transport and materials and people...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>spazzmanda said:</p>
<p>&#8220;But I must posit one question, will the high rise living quarters in the Polar Cities also be equipped to fend off the zombies? Because that is what I think about in the distant future, and we all should really be prepared.&#8221;</p>
<p>You know, I just saw the movie 28  DAYS LATER by Danny Boyle and Alex Garland, and yes, this nightmare scenario could happen, in far distant future of say, year 3500 or so, in polar cities, IF we get that far to even build them. We should be talking about them more NOW, and planning and designing and even pre-building them NOW, while we still have optimism and time and fuel and transport and materials and people&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Bee</title>
		<link>http://www.gradin.com/2007/07/23/polar-cities/#comment-37895</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 11:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe instead of polar cities, we could call them "sustainable polar retreats" (SPR), as one of my email friends has suggested.......these SPRs might be villages, towns, encampments, even single dwellings, and maybe cigties,maybe even a metropolis....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe instead of polar cities, we could call them &#8220;sustainable polar retreats&#8221; (SPR), as one of my email friends has suggested&#8230;&#8230;.these SPRs might be villages, towns, encampments, even single dwellings, and maybe cigties,maybe even a metropolis&#8230;.</p>
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