Comments on: The Drudgery of Process http://www.gradin.com/2007/08/15/the-drudgery-of-process/ It's like family, only weirder... Thu, 06 Oct 2011 21:52:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: webmaster http://www.gradin.com/2007/08/15/the-drudgery-of-process/comment-page-1/#comment-64063 webmaster Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:30:19 +0000 http://www.gradin.com/2007/08/15/the-drudgery-of-process/#comment-64063 It has been a year - how's SIP coming? Ha! It has been a year – how’s SIP coming? Ha!

]]> By: Isi http://www.gradin.com/2007/08/15/the-drudgery-of-process/comment-page-1/#comment-40125 Isi Sat, 25 Aug 2007 03:05:13 +0000 http://www.gradin.com/2007/08/15/the-drudgery-of-process/#comment-40125 I don't want to turn this into a *work* conversation but Brian hit the nail on the head. There was this metal that was discovered on the moon. That metal was beaten and beaten, heated and burned, worked and manipulated, and all manner of other things that you can do to metal...it morphed over time and became this magical hammer thing know as SIP. SIP will save us all. Or at least save a bunch of electrons from the drudgery of becoming useless forms and documents serving a thankless overlord that only cares about the paperwork and not the content or the outcome. I don’t want to turn this into a *work* conversation but Brian hit the nail on the head. There was this metal that was discovered on the moon. That metal was beaten and beaten, heated and burned, worked and manipulated, and all manner of other things that you can do to metal…it morphed over time and became this magical hammer thing know as SIP.

SIP will save us all. Or at least save a bunch of electrons from the drudgery of becoming useless forms and documents serving a thankless overlord that only cares about the paperwork and not the content or the outcome.

]]> By: Brian http://www.gradin.com/2007/08/15/the-drudgery-of-process/comment-page-1/#comment-39728 Brian Sun, 19 Aug 2007 23:52:15 +0000 http://www.gradin.com/2007/08/15/the-drudgery-of-process/#comment-39728 Welcome to our world, Olaf!!! The problem is that we engineers are the hub and the spokes are networking, storage, facilities, etc. The long and the short of it is we have to do everything "boring" while each of the groups each press their one button. In truth, we should all be shouldering the misery, er load and those other groups that you and I depend on should revel in our drudgery. The SIP process going on right now aims to address this. Eric and I wrote a spreadsheet last spring to do exactly what you suggested though we can't seem to get anyone to jump on it. I do know the process is actively being worked on though. Of course if you just hurry up and virtualize it all, then all of this goes away. Get crackin', man! :-) Welcome to our world, Olaf!!!

The problem is that we engineers are the hub and the spokes are networking, storage, facilities, etc. The long and the short of it is we have to do everything “boring” while each of the groups each press their one button. In truth, we should all be shouldering the misery, er load and those other groups that you and I depend on should revel in our drudgery. The SIP process going on right now aims to address this.

Eric and I wrote a spreadsheet last spring to do exactly what you suggested though we can’t seem to get anyone to jump on it. I do know the process is actively being worked on though.

Of course if you just hurry up and virtualize it all, then all of this goes away. Get crackin’, man! :-)

]]> By: Sean http://www.gradin.com/2007/08/15/the-drudgery-of-process/comment-page-1/#comment-39465 Sean Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:30:27 +0000 http://www.gradin.com/2007/08/15/the-drudgery-of-process/#comment-39465 Actually, you should come to my office one day. We have a similar process of getting a server "racked and stacked," cabled, port turn ups, etc. I used to be exactly where you are in your thought process... now I work for the team doing the racking, cabling, etc. Since i've joined that team, its been my mission to make it an easier process. While the forms haven't changed, I have educated people on how to properly use them. I think its resulted in a better flow, but there's always room for improvement. I will say that without having our team do the racking and managing of the equipment in our datacenter, it would be a HUGE mess. We have over 6000 pieces of equipment in there now, and that makes up over 16,000 connections (power, network, fiber, etc) between devices. Anyhoo - I keep all that data in a fancy sql database with a fancy front end. I'd be happy to show it off to you sometime, but since it was developed at the company, its considered "intellectual property." :) I have, however, entertained the thought of developing a new version of it outside the company. Ok, I'm rambling. Back to work. Actually, you should come to my office one day. We have a similar process of getting a server “racked and stacked,” cabled, port turn ups, etc. I used to be exactly where you are in your thought process… now I work for the team doing the racking, cabling, etc. Since i’ve joined that team, its been my mission to make it an easier process. While the forms haven’t changed, I have educated people on how to properly use them. I think its resulted in a better flow, but there’s always room for improvement. I will say that without having our team do the racking and managing of the equipment in our datacenter, it would be a HUGE mess. We have over 6000 pieces of equipment in there now, and that makes up over 16,000 connections (power, network, fiber, etc) between devices. Anyhoo – I keep all that data in a fancy sql database with a fancy front end. I’d be happy to show it off to you sometime, but since it was developed at the company, its considered “intellectual property.” :) I have, however, entertained the thought of developing a new version of it outside the company.

Ok, I’m rambling. Back to work.

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